"It's wonderful how clearly you see it," she said.
"Pretty plain to see," I went on. "We men, having all human power in our hands, have used it to warp and check the growth of women. We, by choice and selection, by law and religion, by enforced ignorance, by heavy overcultivation of sex, have made the kind of woman we so made by nature, that that is what it was to be a woman. Then we heaped our scornful abuse upon her, ages and ages of it, the majority of men in all nations still looking down on women. And then, as if that was not enough—really, my dear, I'm not joking, I'm ashamed, as if I'd done it myself—we, in our superior freedom, in our monopoly of education, with the law in our hands, both to make and ex- ecute, with every conceivable advantage—we have blamed wo- men for the sins of the world!"
She interrupted here, eagerly—"Not all of you, Van dear! That was only a sort of legend with some people. It was only in the Jewish religion you think so much of that the contemptible lie was actually stated as a holy truth—and even God made to establish that unspeakable injustice."
"Yes, that's true, but nobody objected. We all accepted it gladly—and treated her accordingly. Well, sister—have I owned up enough? I guess you can't hurt my feelings any with any- thing you say about men. Of course, I'm not going into details, that would take forever, but just in general I can see what ails the women—and who's to blame for it."
"Don't be too hard on Mr. Man," she urged gently. "What you say is true enough, but so are other things. What puzzles me most is not at all that background of explanation, but what ails the women now. Here, even here in America, now. They have had some education for several generations, numbers of them have time to think, some few have money —I cannot be recon- ciled to the women, Van!"
She was so unusually fierce about it that I was quite sur- prised at her. I had supposed that her hardest feeling would be about men. She saw my astonishment and explained.
"Put yourself in my place for a moment, Van. Suppose in Her- land we had a lot of—subject men. Blame us all you want to for doing it, but look at the men. Little creatures, undersized and generally feeble. Cowardly and not ashamed of it. Kept for sex purposes only or as servants; or both, usually both. I confess I'm asking something difficult of your imagination, but try to think of Herland women, each with a soft man she kept to cook for her, to wait upon her and to—'love' when she pleased. Ignorant men mostly. Poor men, almost all, having to ask their owners for money and tell what they wanted it for. Some of them utterly degraded creatures, kept in houses for common use—as women are kept here. Some of them quite gay and happy—pet men, with pet names and presents showered upon them. Most of them contented, piously accenting kitchen work as their duty, living by the religion and laws and customs the women made. Some of them left out and made fun of for being left—not owned at all—and envying those who were! Allow for a surprising percentage of mutual love and happiness, even un- der these conditions; but also for ghastly depths of misery and a general low level of mere submission to the inevitable. Then in this state of degradation fancy these men for the most part quite content to make monkeys of themselves by wearing the most ridiculous clothes. Fancy them, men, with men's bodies, though enfeebled, wearing open-work lace underclothing, with little ribbons all strung through it; wearing dresses never twice alike and almost always foolish; wearing hats " she fixed me with a steady eye in which a growing laughter twinkled "wear- ing such hats as your women wear!"
At this I threw up my hands. "I can't!" I said. "It's all off. I fol- lowed you with increasing difficulty, even through the lace and baby ribbon, but I stop there. Men wear such hats! Men! I tell you it is unthinkable !"
"Unthinkable for such men?"
"Such men are unthinkable, really; contemptible, skulking, cowardly spaniels! They would deserve all they got."
"Why aren't you blaming the women of Herland for treating them so, Van?"
"Oh!" said I, and "Yes," said I, "I begin to see, my dear Her- lander, why you're down on the women."
"Good," she agreed. "It's all tree, what you say about the men, nothing could be blacker than that story. But the women, Van, the women! They are not dead! They are here, and in ycur country they have plenty of chanc* to grow. How can they bear their position, Van; how can they stand it another day ? Don't they know they are Women?"
"No," said I slowly. "They think they are—women." We both laughed rather sadly.
Presently she said, "We have to take the facts as we find them. Emotion does not help us any. It's no use being horrified at a—hermit crab—that's the way he is. This is the woman man made—how is she going to get over it?'
"You don't forget the ones who have gotten over it, do you? And all the splendid work they are doing?"
"I'm afraid I did for a moment," she admitted. "Besides—so much of their effort is along side lines, and some of it in pre- cisely the wrong direction."
"What would you have them do?"
"What would you have those inconceivable men of Herland do?" she countered. "What would you say to them— to rouse them?"
"I'd try to make them realize that they were men," I said. "That's the first thing."
"Exactly. And if the smooth, plump, crazily dressed creatures answered 'A true man is always glad to be supported by the woman he loves' what would you say to that?"
"I should try to make him realize what the world really was," I answered slowly, "and to see what was a man's place in it."
"And if he answered you—a hundred million strong—'A man's place is in the home!'—what would you say then?"
"It would be pretty hard to say anything—if men were like that."
"Yes, and it is pretty hard to say anything when women are like that—it doesn't reach them."
"But there is the whole women's movement—surely they are changing, improving.
She shook off her mood of transient bitterness. "My ignor- ance makes me hard, I suppose. I'm not familiar enough with your past history, recent past history, I mean, to note the changes as clearly as you do. I come suddenly to see them as they are, not knowing how much worse it has been. For in- stance, I suppose women used to dress more foolishly than they do now. Can that be possible?"
I ran over in my mind some of the eccentricities of fashion in earlier periods and was about to say that it was possible when I chanced to look out of the window. It was a hot day, most op- pressively hot, with a fiercely glaring sun. A woman stood just across the street talking to a man. I picked up my opera glass and studied her for a moment. I had read that "the small waist is coming in again." Hers had come. She stood awkwardly in extremely high-heeled slippers, in which the sole of the foot leaned on a steep slant from heel to ball, and her toes, poor things, were driven into the jiarrowpointed toe of the slipper by the whole sliding weight of the body above. The thin silk hose showed the insteps puffing up like a pincushion from the binding grip of that short vamp.
Her skirts were short as a child's, most voluminous and var- ied in outline, hanging in bunches on the hips and in various fluctuating points and comers below. The bodice was a parti- colored composition, of indiscreet exposures, more suitable for a ballroom than for the street.
But what struck me most was that she wore about her neck a dead fox or the whole outside of one.
No, she was not a lunatic. No, that man was not her keeper. No, it was not a punishment, not an initiation penalty, not an election bet.
That woman, of her own free will and at considerable ex- pense, wore heavy furs in the hottest summer weather.
I laid down the glass and turned to Ellador. "No, my dear,' 'said I gloomily. "It is not possible that women ever could have been more idiotic in dress than that."
We were silent for a little, watching that pitiful object with her complacent smile as she stood there on those distorted feet, sweating under her load of fur, perfectly contented and pleased with herself.
"Some way," said Ellador slowly, "it makes me almost dis- couraged about the woman's movement. I'm not, of course, not really. I do know enough to see that they are far better off than a hundred years ago. And the laws of life are on their side, sol- id irresistible laws. They are women after all, and women are people—are the people, really, up to a certain point. I must make more allowances, must learn to see the gain in some Ways even where there is none in others. Now that—that tot- tering little image may be earning her own living or doing something useful… . What's worst of all, perhaps, is the strange missing of purpose in those who are most actively en- gaged in 'advancing.' They seem like flies behind a window, they bump and buzz, pushing their heads against whatever is in front of them, and never seem really to plan a way out… . No, there's one thing worse than that—much worse. I wouldn't have believed it possible—I can hardly believe it now."
"What's this horror?" I asked. "Prostitution ? White slavery ?" "Oh, no," she said, "those things are awful, but a sort of nat- ural awfulness, if I may say so; what a scientific observer would expect of the evil conditions carried to excess. No—this thing is —unnatural! I mean—the Antis." "Oh—the Anti-Suffragists?"
"Yes. Think of the men again—those poor degraded men I was imagining. And then think of some of them struggling for freedom, struggling long and hard, with pathetically slow pro- gress, doing no harm in the meantime, just talking, arguing, pleading, petitioning, using what small money they could scrape together to promote their splendid cause, their cause that meant not only their own advantage, but more freedom and swifter progress for all the world. And then think of some other of those pet men, not only misunderstanding the whole thing, too dull or too perverse even to see such basic truth as that, but actually banding together to oppose it——!
"Van, if you want one all-sufficient and world-convincing proof of the degradation of women, you have it in the anti- suffragist !
"The men are backing them, remember," I suggested.
"Of course they are. You expect the men to oppose the free- ing of women, they naturally would. But the women, Van— the women themselves—it's un-natural."
With a sick shudder she buried her face in her hands for a moment, then straightened up bravely again, giving that pa- tient little sigh of dismissal to the subject. I was silent and watched her as she sat, so strong, so graceful, so beautiful, with that balanced connection in line and movement we usually see only in savages. Her robe was simple in form, loyely in col- or, comfortable and becoming. I looked at her with unfailing pleasure always, never having to make excuses and reserva- tions. All of her was beautiful and strong.
And I thought of her sisters, that fair land of full grown wo- men, all of whom, with room for wide persona) distinction, were beautiful and strong. There were differences enough. A group of thoroughbred race horses might vary widely in color, size, shape, marking and individual expression; yet all be fine horses. There would be no need of scrubs and cripples to make variety. And I looked again out of our window, at the city street, with its dim dirtiness, its brutal noise and the unsatis- fied, unsatisfying people going so hurriedly about after their food, crowding, pushing, hurrying like hungry rats; the sordid eagerness of the men, the shallow folly of the women. And all at once there swept over me a great wave of homesickness for Herland.
Ellador was never satisfied merely to criticize; she must needs plan some way out, some improvement. So, laying aside her discouragement, she plunged into this woman question with new determination and before long came to me in loving triumph.
"I was wrong, Van, to be so harsh with them; it was just my Herland background. Now I have been deliberately putting my- self in the woman's place and measuring the rate of pro- gress—as of a glacier. And it's wonderful, really wonderful. There was the bottom limit—not so very far back—some sav- ages still keeping to it—merely to live long enough to bear a daughter. Then there's the gain, this way in one land and that way in another, but always a gain. Then this great modern awakening which is now stirring them all over the world. By keeping my own previous knowledge of women entirely out of my mind and by measuring your really progressive ones to-day against their own grandmothers—that movement I was so scornful about now seems to me a sunburst of blazing improve- ment. Of course they 'bump and buzz' in every direction, that is mere resilience—haven't they been kept down in every direc- tion ? They'll get over that as they grow accustomed to real liberty.
"It would be inconceivable that they should have been so un- utterably degraded for so long and not show the results of it, the limitations. Instead of blaming them I should have been re- joicing at the wonderful speed with which they have surged forward as fast as any door was opened, even a crack. I have been looking at what might be called the unconscious as apart from the conscious woman's movement, and it comforts me much."
"Just what do you mean ?"
"I mean the women's clubs, here in this country especially; and largest of all the economic changes; the immense numbers who are at work."
"Didn't they always work? The poor ones, that is ?" "Oh, yes, at home. I mean human work."
"Wage earning?"
"That, incidentally, as a descriptive term; but it would be dif- ferent grade of work, even without that."
"So I've heard people say, some people. But what is there su- perior in doing some fractional monotonous little job like book- keeping, for instance, as compared with the management and performance of all the intimate tasks in a household ?"
I was so solemn about this that she took me seriously, at least for a moment.